My distinct apologies, Jeff.
You are quite right. I was rather tired and braindead so forgot the
"Super-errata". It was hiding in the shed but the books were inside - trust
me to leave the errata there when playing a game last week. The -2 is
there, it is flat and would then I reckon apply to warhorses. And also be
continuing by the text. The bonus removal relates only to charge bonuses.
Cheers,
Bern
-----Original Message-----
From: WABlist@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WABlist@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
jbickel2000
Sent: Monday, 28 May 2012 5:05 AM
To: WABlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WABlist] Re: Not dead yet ...
Thanks Bern. I am going with the AoC stake rules but I read in the AoC
errata that mounted chargers are -2 to hit. I will double check that and see
if my opponent needs an apology...
Jeff
--- In WABlist@yahoogroups.com, "Bern" <berning@...> wrote:
>
> G'day Jeff,
>
> The only WAB2 mention for stakes I can spot is an option for Medieval
> English. I'd happily be directed to the WAB 2 rules.
>
> AoC stakes however only negate strength bonuses and First Charge. The
> wording in AoC is wide enough that if any mounted unit got a strength
> bonus from a weapon in the second etc turn of combat they would lose
> that. Is there a mace in Vlad or BTGG that gives a continuing +1 Str
> bonus or is my memory faulty (probably the latter)?
>
> AoC stakes don't cause a minus to attackers. That is a Phalanx rule
> (foot -1, mounted -2).
>
>
> Cheers,
> Bern
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WABlist@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WABlist@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> jbickel2000
> Sent: Sunday, 27 May 2012 12:23 PM
> To: WABlist@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WABlist] Not dead yet ...
>
> Hi all. Sad that WAB is out of print but rules often getted picked up
> by other publishers and get reissued.Even if this doesn't occur, the
> rules are solid and available on the web with all the supplements, I
> been playing the set for about five years and will continue to play
> it. I am currently gaming with some die hard WFB players and am using
> the set to introduce the joys of historical gaming very successfully.
>
> I have 4 armies based on the HatPW supplement and am branching into
> the medieval period. My opponent and I have been playing 100 year War
> English vs French. The use of stakes have generated some questions I
> am hoping the group can help with.
>
> Stakes eliminate weapon charge bonus, first charge and cause -2 to hit
> for mounted models.
>
> 1) Do these penalties apply to warhorses?
>
> 2) Do these penalties apply after the first round of combat?
>
> Thanks for any help gents and chin up, the game is too good to die and
> especially not with good ambassadors for the set.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
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