I am pretty much counting on being there. Looking over the various greek pike lists, 2800 points seems to be a good number to match 2000 from the old lists. So a bit more, some a bit less...
Mark Cuomo
--- In WABlist@yahoogroups.com, "jxclarke" <jimclarke@...> wrote:
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> I have not heard of a secret sauce conversion formula. The closest I have heard of is that a 2800 point list using AofA will roughly approximaegt a 2000 point list using the other supplements. For first time use ina tournament and given that none of us on the left coast have recieved AofA, it might be a safe compromise to allow either AofA at 2800 or exising supplments at 2000, recognizing thatr this will be an imperfect compromsie that we have to see how it works.
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> The bigger issue than points I think will be what ever rule changes have been effected by AofA, and how thay will apply to non-A0fA lists (Roman Maniple rules for example).
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> There are a couple of us from Sacramento mulling over whether we can make it down for the tournament.
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> Jim
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> --- In WABlist@yahoogroups.com, "aeceditor" <aecurtis@> wrote:
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> > Good luck with the plan, Harold! This seems like an awkward time to be trying out AoA2 so soon after its release, but if everyone is flexible...
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> > "If there is a workable conversion factor that would allow the legacy supplements and the new AoA to coexist I'll consider that."
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> > I suspect that any such factor would be about as hard to identify as phlogiston. Supplement points were frequently adjusted for in-period play, so don't work so consistently across the entire spectrum of history--which was what many complained about. The British tournament organizers went to the "ABC" rating system to adjust overall army points with the supplement lists where they perceived inequalities, but now apparently are content with planning to use the AoA2 lists as published. The AoA2 point structure seems to be a new thing, and very much its own thing: distinct and separate from the period supplements.
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> > Not my cup of tea, obviously. I'd say I'd try to make it if someone like Jeff were coming up from SD, for a one-off in-period matchup--but Nancy's so sick these days I don't dare be gone from home that long.
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> > Hope you guys have fun, but I'd suggest making the decision early and sticking to it. AoA2 was designed for the tournamenteers, so it does seem kinda logical to switch to it for an open event. The limiting factor will be the number of people willing to order it from Forge World between now and then.
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> > Allen
> >
> > --- In WABlist@yahoogroups.com, "Harold H" <haroldlhildebrand@> wrote:
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> > > There will be a 2000point (possibly 2500) Warhammer Ancient Battles tournament on Sunday February 19th at Strategicon's Orccon 2012. We'll be calling it the Webster Open in memory of the late Alex Webster who hosted the tournament during the 90s. The event will be at the Sheraton Gateway Los Angles Hotel, 6101 West Century Boulevard, Los Angeles Ca 90045.
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> > > The checkin time will be 10:00 am and we'll get started right at 10:30. The plan is for three, two and half hour games with a forty five minute break between, but we've had to modify that schedule in the past to fit various circumstances.
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> > > Right now the acceptable supplement question has been muddied a bit by the release of the new Armies of Antiquity. I'm currently leaning toward using it exclusively. I'll be giving it a good look over once I get my hands on it, and I'll be following the public discussion; so I'll try to make an informed decision by the end of January. If you are thinking of coming and have strong opinions either way please feel free to share them with me via private email. If there is a workable conversion factor that would allow the legacy supplements and the new AoA to coexist I'll consider that. The intent of this tournament is to be inclusive as possible but it seems to be the whole point of the new AoA book is tailor made for an open tournament like this.
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> > > We've sort of fallen in to the schedule of having two single-supplement tournaments a year (May and September) and then this open tournament in February. The single supplement tournaments are very casual with a slant toward beginners with team games and smaller forces. But the February tournament is intended to be a bit more competitive, and although less experienced players are welcome it's not for somebody who's never played before. That being said I will have a few loaner armies available if you don't have anything painted. I do try to match up similar period armies but there will inevitably be some non historical battles.
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> > > There's no formal sign in process but I would appreciate an email a couple of weeks before the tournament if you are thinking of attending so I can plan for table space. I'll send out another email as we get closer to try to get a better picture of the possible attendance.
> > >
> > > Thanks everybody and I hope for another good turnout in February. By the way, any feedback on which legacy supplement to use for the May convention would also be appreciated; I'm leaning towards Chariot Wars. We had an Age of Arthur event and a Shieldwall event in 2011 so I'd like to get out of the Dark ages. I know that there are less biblical armies out there in peoples cabinets but I have quite a few that can be used as loaners.
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> > > Harold Hildebrand
> > > haroldhildebrand@
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